Alto Velo C Ride Jan - 27 - 24: 3 MidPen Hills

Hi Peloton

Is it really not going to rain this Saturday? The weather shows a little warmth but cloud cover.

• I have identified regroups and water / bathroom breaks on the route link.

• We WILL stay together until Foothill College and then natural selection will take effect on the hill.

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: 3 MidPen Hills
Stats: ~43mi, ~3360ft

Regroups

• Foothill Park (Water / Bathroom)

• Arastradero / Page Mill (quick)

• Top of Alpine

• Willowbrook / Alpine (quick)

• Old Woodside Store (2nd time through - Water)

• Sharon Heights Across from Shell Station (quick)

Thank you,

Ed
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart

Alto Velo C Ride Jan/20/24: Southern Rain Route

Hi All

Forecast is for rain again on Saturday, and with wet roads, the planned route has only moderate ascents and descents.  We will meander through Los Alto’s hills and end up in Rancho San Antonio for our first stop.  We will then go up Stevens Canyon Road for our next stop at the end.  We will then head back on Foothill Expy, with our route going through Stanford campus.

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route Link: Southern Rain Route
Stats: ~43mi, ~2500ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

John

Alto Velo C Ride Jan/13/24: Northern Rain Route

Hi Peloton

Forecast looks wet on Saturday so we will plan the Northern Rain Route. Either Simon or Ed will be leading. I will not be there if it is wet, but Simon has agreed to lead the ride regardless of weather.

• Remember we have started 2024 and all riders must have a new waiver signed. If you are a member, you have completed this step. If you are just joining the ride, then you must sign the waiver from BikeReg.

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: Northern Rain Route
Stats: ~38mi, ~2600ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart

Alto Velo C Ride: Jan6’23

Starts at Summit Bicycles in Palo Alto

Route: Palo Alto Hills, Mount Eden
https://www.strava.com/routes/3077026234513907318
42 miles, 3.2k' vertical

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!) and all participants must sign an annual waiver.

• Helmets required, no sudden lateral moves, call out hazards, call out mechanical problems, ride at a steady pace, …, ask for a mentor if you are new to group riding

Non - Members: Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our ride; however, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

Time: Saturday gather at 9:00am, rolling by 9:15am

Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA
Summit is Alto Velo's sponsoring bike shop.

Protocol:

• Paceline when conditions allow, jam as hard as you like on the climbs, occasional sprint OK, soft pedal for an in-flight regroup when we get separated

• Regroup at the top of every major climb and every significant descent — everyone descends at their own safe speed

• Pay attention to the regroup locations and don’t pass them if you wish to stay with the group

Bring two water bottles

Description:

• Peloton, we are heading south because it looks like the rain will come from the north. With luck we will be back without getting wet and if the rain starts early we will skip the Altamont loop.

• If you breakaway before the first regroup you will be encouraged to wait at the first stop. If the wait is too long we will break into two fragments: drop and no drop.

Regroups: first stationary regroup in Rancho San Antonio County Park (water, bathrooms), each subsequent regroup location will be called out during a stop

Alto Velo B/C Ride Dec - 30 - 23: Rain Route

Hi Peloton

Rain is forecast for Saturday, and we are out all ride leaders except me :-0. As such, we will propose a B/C combo ride for tomorrow. It will be the Rain Route. It is a naturally shorter route (38 mi), but has lots of route variability if so chosen.

If it is wet, which it is supposed to be, don’t wait for me but rather head out at 9:15am. Self organize and be kind. Rubber side down.

** Look for a Cake and Coffee ride for Monday with better weather.

AV B/C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: Rain Route
Stats: ~38mi, ~2400ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart

Alto Velo C Ride Dec - 23 - 23: Holiday Coffee Ride

Hi Peloton

Please read this section because it will tell you about Saturday’s special C Ride. If you remember, we did a coffee ride last year to celebrate the holidays and we will do it again.

• We will have 2 leaders for tomorrow’s ride. John will be monitoring the front while Ed will be providing sweep.

• We will stop at about mile 31 for coffee at Emerald Cafe in Emerald Hills. This coffee will be provided free courtesy of Alto Velo Bike Club.

• After coffee, we have a flat ride back to Backyard Brew for another coffee and enjoyable discussions.

• We are taking a couple newish roads to provide novelty and challenge.

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: 2023 Christmas Ride
Stats: ~41mi, ~3260ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart

AV-C 12/16/23 Carolands Chateau & Flintstone House

Starts at Summit Bicycles in Palo Alto

Route: Carolands chateau & Flintstone house
https://www.strava.com/routes/3170256787041546016
49 miles, 3.0k' vertical

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!) and all participants must sign an annual waiver.

• Helmets required, no sudden lateral moves, call out hazards, call out mechanical problems, ride at a steady pace, …, ask for a mentor if you are new to group riding.

Non - Members: Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our ride; however, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

Time: Saturday gather at 9:00am, rolling by 9:15am

Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA
Summit is Alto Velo's sponsoring bike shop.

Protocol:

• Paceline when conditions allow, jam as hard as you like on the climbs, occasional sprint OK, soft pedal for an in-flight regroup when we get separated

• Regroup at the top of every major climb and every significant descent — everyone descends at their own safe speed

• Pay attention to the regroup locations and don’t pass them if you wish to stay with the group

Bring two water bottles

Regroups: soft pedal through Stanford. Stay together to Sandhill & 280. Rolling regroup on Manzanita. Quick Regroup @ driveway after Roberts, Canada & 92, Sawer camp, Skyline & Hayden, slow roll to Chaolands. long Regroup @ Flintstone house. Quick regroup @ top of Bunker hill, Canada & 92. Longe regroup @ water temple. Lets stay together on Canada. Returning via Mt Home, Portola & Alpine. Re-group @ Portola & Alpine. Bathrooms on Sawer camp trail, Water & bathrooms @ water temple.

If some of the regulars help “sweep” to prevent folks being dropped? Thanks.

https://www.strava.com/routes/3170256787041546016

Alto Velo C Ride Dec9’23

Starts at Summit Bicycles in Palo Alto

Route: Palo Alto Hills, Alpine Rd, The Maze
https://www.strava.com/routes/3168083388347998682
45 miles, 3.8k' vertical

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!) and all participants must sign an annual waiver.

• Helmets required, no sudden lateral moves, call out hazards, call out mechanical problems, ride at a steady pace, …, ask for a mentor if you are new to group riding

Non - Members: Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our ride; however, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

Time: Saturday gather at 9:00am, rolling by 9:15am

Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA
Summit is Alto Velo's sponsoring bike shop.

Protocol:

• Paceline when conditions allow, jam as hard as you like on the climbs, occasional sprint OK, soft pedal for an in-flight regroup when we get separated

• Regroup at the top of every major climb and every significant descent — everyone descends at their own safe speed

• Pay attention to the regroup locations and don’t pass them if you wish to stay with the group

Bring two water bottles

Regroups: stay together at least to Taafe, regroup at entrance to Foothills Park (water, bathrooms), each subsequent regroup location will be called out during a stop

Alto Velo C Ride Dec- 02 - 23: PV, Canada and Crestview

Hi Peloton

Saturday will we route ourselves through PV, starting as if we were the B Ride, and then head out Canada Rd. A right on Bunker Hill will take us over 280 and into a neighborhood that I once visited during the pandemic. We will head up Ralston to Crestview and go up Crestview in the easy direction. The high speed descent into Edgewood and a quick jaunt up Jefferson will take us back to Canada. We will finally head down Woodside, a slight detour through the old Folger Estate area and zooming home along Avenue of the Fleas.

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: PV Route / Crestview
Stats: ~43mi, ~3000ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart

AV-C 11/25/23 route correction

Corrected route.

https://www.strava.com/routes/3013282307531306728

AV-C The Rez loop 11/25/23

Starts at Summit Bicycles in Palo Alto

Route: Los Alto back roads to Rancho San Antonio, around the reservoir, returning Cupertino hills then Foothill Exp way
water & bathroom stops @ Rancho & McClellan

https://www.strava.com/routes/3013282307531306728

37 miles, 3.1k' vertical

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!) and all participants must sign an annual waiver.

• Helmets required, no sudden lateral moves (as a group we need to work on this), call out hazards, call out mechanical problems, no crossing over the road center line, ride at a steady pace, …, ask for a mentor if you are new to group riding.

Non - Members: Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our ride; however, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

Time: Saturday gather at 9:00am, rolling by 9:15am

Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA
Summit is Alto Velo's sponsoring bike shop.

Protocol:

• Paceline when conditions allow, jam as hard as you like on the climbs, occasional sprint OK, soft pedal for an in-flight regroup when we get separated. Let folks know if you decide to drop off the ride.

• Regroup at the top of every major climb and every significant descent — everyone descends at their own safe speed

Bring two water bottles

Regroups: @ Quary, Water tank, Rancho bathrooms, Top of Mt. Eden, Mt. Winery, Top of Comer, McClellan park.

https://www.strava.com/routes/3013282307531306728

AV-C Ride Nov-18, 2023: Rain route, “Looks like rain”

Hi Peloton

The forecast has been steady predicting rain on Saturday, so be prepared.   We are doing the “Rain Route”, but with a modification.  The Rain Route is relatively flat to avoid long and steep downhills.  The route takes us to Sand Hill Rd and out to Canada, and then we will circle back by Bunker Hill Rd.  We typically take the Ralston bike path but are not sure when it will reopen.  The roads will be wet, so be cautious and ride safely.     

John
there's no bad weather only bad clothing.

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: Rain Route
Regroups: Mt Home & 84, End of Canada, Top of Bunker Hill, Water Temple, Stanford park
Stats: ~38.2mi, ~2433ft

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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

John Contreras

* Update: Alto Velo C Ride Nov-11- 23: Return to Normal Start Location

Hi Peloton

I have received a note from the AV Board of Director that says we must start our C Ride from the Cal Ave. location of Summit Bikes. Therefore, we will keep the same route but leave from Summit at 9:15. We will take Bol Park Bike Path to get to Los Altos It will add about 4 flat miles onto the original proposed route. I apologize about the confusion.

Brief description

We are talking a route we have done before. We will head south out of Los Altos and proceed through Stevens Canyon and into Saratoga. We head south on Highway 9 and over Highway 17 to climb Shannon and Kennedy. We ride back to Los Gatos to pick up some water, and then head back to Los Altos and Peet’s for some warm or cold beverages, etc.

Ed

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bicycles 
Route: Stevens Canyon, Shannon, Kennedy, Los Gatos, Trail of Tears
Stats: ~45mi, ~3200ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart

Alto Velo C Ride Nov4'23

Starts at Summit Bicycles in Palo Alto

Route: Old La Honda, Jefferson, Cervantes
https://www.strava.com/routes/3155012449405797004
43 miles, 3.6k' vertical

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!) and all participants must sign an annual waiver.

• Helmets required, no sudden lateral moves (as a group we need to work on this), call out hazards, call out mechanical problems, ride at a steady pace, …, ask for a mentor if you are new to group riding

Non - Members: Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our ride; however, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

Time: Saturday gather at 9:00am, rolling by 9:15am

Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA
Summit is Alto Velo's sponsoring bike shop.

Protocol:

• Paceline when conditions allow, jam as hard as you like on the climbs, occasional sprint OK, soft pedal for an in-flight regroup when we get separated

• Regroup at the top of every major climb and every significant descent — everyone descends at their own safe speed

Bring two water bottles

Regroups: soft pedal between Sand Hill and OLH, regroup at bottom of OLH, then Sky Londa, …

AV-C Ride October 28 2023 - Mora Moody

Hi Peloton

This week’s ride has some inspiration from Eagan with some classic AV-C segments. There are four climbs with the last two climbs with easy bail out spots. We will have a simple warm-up down Foothill Express Way, then we will climb up Mora. After Mora is the only spot where we might lose any one, so please review the map or load the route in your navigation device. After we get through the Los Altos maze, we will find our way to Moody. We will climb Moody, and in Foothill park, we will climb the hill from the back side. We will then head over to Woodside and eventually climb the Canada College hill. We will then head back to our start. with a social cool down after our last regroup on Sandhill across for the Shell station.

Hope you can make it!
John

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA (Summit is Alto Velo's Sponsoring bike shop)
Route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/44837963
Stats: 44mi & 3238ft

Regroups:
Top of Mora before Rancho San Antonio entrance (short)
Foothill Park entrance
Alpine and Portola
Trip Road and Kings Mt
Top of Canada (short)
Sandhill across from Shell station
Backyard Brew

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Alto Velo C Ride Oct 21, 2023 - PV, Emerald Hills

Hi Peloton

This week’s ride is pretty straight forward except for a few Ed delights. I have started and ended each ride with ~5 miles of warm up and cool down. The point during those sections is to talk, enjoy some less traveled roads, and cool down.

Let’s head out to PV via a warm up around Stanford, and a straight route up Alpine. First Ed Stewart detour from there by my old elementary school and a very brief gravel section (completely flat). A couple hills and back to Portola Road. From there we head to Trip and the old Woodside Store before heading to Edgewood and a very standard climb up Jefferson. We will then head back to PV via Mountain Home, Portola and finish PV with the climb over Westridge. We will then head down Alpine, Sand Hill and warm down through Stanford University and back to Summit.

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA (Summit is Alto Velo's Sponsoring bike shop)
Route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/44794550
Stats: ~43mi & 2600ft

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

AV C Ride - Foothills & Huddart Park 10/14

Hi Peloton

Returning as a favored ride by many.

We will be heading up to Foothills park via Los Altos back roads then to Huddard via Portola Rd, Mt Home then through the maze. Regroups @ Foothills park, Willowbrook, Mt Home & Roberts, & Old Woodside store. Water & bathrooms @ Foothills park & Huddart park.

Lets all stay in a group & New riders introduce your self!!!

As always, we will end back for tea and coffee. @ Backyard brew

If you haven’t downloaded the ride, I recommend you do so. We have done this course and it’s a lot of fun.

https://www.strava.com/routes/3147428799054079790

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA (Summit is Alto Velo's Sponsoring bike shop)
Route: https://www.strava.com/routes/3147428799054079790
Stats: ~40mi & 3000ft

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Alto Velo C Ride Oct7’23

Starts at Summit Bicycles in Palo Alto

Route: Altamont, Alpine, Huddert
https://www.strava.com/routes/3008037182071392626
42 miles, 3.4k' vertical

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!) and all participants must sign an annual waiver.

• Helmets required, no sudden lateral moves, call out hazards, call out mechanical problems, ride at a steady pace, …, ask for a mentor if you are new to group riding

Non - Members: Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our ride; however, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

Time: Saturday gather at 9:00am, rolling by 9:15am

Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA
Summit is Alto Velo's sponsoring bike shop.

Protocol:

• Paceline when conditions allow, jam as hard as you like on the climbs, occasional sprint OK, soft pedal for an in-flight regroup when we get separated

• Regroup at the top of every major climb and every significant descent — everyone descends at their own safe speed

Bring two water bottles

Regroups: First stationary regroup will be at the corner of Stonebrook and Prospect

AV-C 9/30/23 The Amazing Mazey Maze of Mazey roads

Hi Peloton

Have you ever wondered how you can get from Palo Alto to Los Gatos via all back roads? Well you are about to find out. We will head out Los Alto hills, through Ranco San Antonio, Cupertino, Saratoga, Montalvo, Monte Sereno & Los Gatos. Regroups @ the Quary, Water tank, Ranco San Antonio, Montalvo & Los Gatos. Water & bathrooms @ Rancho San Antonio & Montalvo. 

We will be going at a more leisurely pace in order to keep the group together. However climb as fast as you like up these little hills but don’t get lost!

New riders introduce your self

As always, we will end back for tea and coffee. @ Backyard brew

If you haven’t downloaded the ride, I recommend you do so.  It is a very non-standard course with lots of twists & turns

https://www.strava.com/routes/3004989917176249572

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA Summit is Alto Velo's Sponsoring bike shop.
Route: https://www.strava.com/routes/3004989917176249572
Stats: ~49mi & 4000ft

The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Alto Velo C Ride Sept -23 - 23: Deliverance, Montebello, Chaparral

Hi Peloton

I am quite proud of myself. I was able to create a explorative route after 4 days in Vegas for a conference. The AC has done me in so hopefully I can recover by Saturday.

Brief description

We will head south because PV is having a running race and so Alpine / Portola will be closed in the AM for a while. We will head through Steven’s Canyon and take on the shallow climb of Steven’s Canyon to the end. We will head back and then up 2 miles of Montebello to Montebello School. We turn around and have some rolling flat miles and then head up Moody until Chaparral. It starts paved and then turns to packed gravel. I have ridden it many times on my road bike so this part is very much the exploration part of the ride. We will then head down Black Mtn. and back to Summit.

*Please look at the route. Most is straight forward until Foothill College.

Ed

AV C Ride

Time: Saturday, gather at 9am. rolling by 9:15am
Start: Summit Bikes - 392 California Ave, Palo Alto, CA Summit is Alto Velo's Sponsoring bike shop.
Route: Deliverance, Montebello School and Chaparral
Stats: ~42mi, ~3100ft
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The AV C Ride is subject to Alto Velo's Ride Rules (read them!).

Non - Members:
Alto Velo welcomes non-members to join us on our rides. However, non-members must have a Waiver on file with the club.

The AV C Ride offers a more moderate workout than the other Alto Velo rides (although a workout it is). Group riding skills & communication in a supportive controlled peloton are emphasized. When not on designated climbs, we aim to keep the group together.

Ed Stewart